{"id":1121,"date":"2011-05-07T10:01:11","date_gmt":"2011-05-07T15:01:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alvaronoboa.webfactional.com\/?p=1121"},"modified":"2012-05-11T10:01:22","modified_gmt":"2012-05-11T15:01:22","slug":"alvaro-noboa-interview-with-andres-carrion-canal-uno","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/news\/alvaro-noboa-interview-with-andres-carrion-canal-uno\/","title":{"rendered":"Alvaro Noboa Interview With Andres Carrion (Canal UNO)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/56p7rVxIq9A\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"480\" height=\"390\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n<\/strong>: Counselor, good evening, long time, no see.\u00a0 How would you read, how would you comment, or reflect upon the vote that was carried out today, Counselor? Good evening, we are listening.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Good evening, Andr\u00e9s, I voted in favor of the NO public. Just as I said in the media for days before the election. I believe it must be very uncomfortable for economist Rafael Correa to govern in a country where half of the people are in favor and half against.\u00a0 That brings, on other occasions in history, that has brought with it terrible social and political maladjustment.\u00a0 I think that is in no way a victory.\u00a0 Victory would be to have gained 90-100%.\u00a0 In that little exit poll that they have conducted, half are for the YES , and half against the YES, or, that is to say, NOs, nulls and blanks.\u00a0 I think that in a democracy it\u2019s a terrible defeat for a government that has used all of its political power, that has used all of the communications media, both their own and of others, to carry out a campaign, while, to use an example, the PRIAN party had a restricted space and wasn\u2019t allowed to use more money, if one wanted spend more money using one\u2019s own funds, it had a space that came to something like 1% of what was used by Rafael Correa\u2019s government.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Counselor, we have listened to the President of the Republic. He has indicated that this is a new triumph for his proposal, in his theory, to carry forward the destiny of the country, and he has indicated that his initiative and proposal is to radicalize governmental procedures.\u00a0 What are the fears that the opposition could have in regards to this announcement by the Head of State and Alianza Pa\u00eds to make the transformations more radical?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Well, radicalizing poverty which is increasing all the time in Ecuador is very bad; radicalizing crime which is increasing all the time Ecuador is very bad; radicalizing corruption which is increasing all the time in Ecuador is very bad; radicalizing his state of arrogance is also very bad.\u00a0 That is the road that Garc\u00eda Moreno took and look where that government ended.\u00a0 That road has been taken by many other leaders throughout the world.\u00a0 We see it today in North Africa where they are being taken out of their positions of power by force.<br \/>\nIt\u2019s very serious, I repeat, to radicalize things.\u00a0 One has to look for consensus, agreements with the MPD, with Pachacutec, with PRIAN, Liberals, Conservatives, and aim for the country, together with government, to work towards that new Ecuador that I have always dreamed of, in order to truly leave poverty behind, to leave the crime, the corruption and those absolute states of power, where on this very day the Head of State has very nearly become like a king, Rafael I. He would be the first king of Ecuador, where he is in control of the Court, controls Congress, controls the Executive Branch. That is bad; it won\u2019t last long, sadly.\u00a0 Even more so with a rebellious people like the Ecuadorians, where if you tread on them, they react badly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Counselor, in one way or another, the action, or the governmental strategy has been to silence you, to eliminate you from the field, to eclipse you in the competition via the issue of taxes.\u00a0 Up to what point have they achieved that and from your perspective is this a political action by the regime?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0Well, it\u2019s part of the modern tools that they use, as you have just said, to try to sideline their opponents.\u00a0 He\u2019s also done it with foreign governments, he has removed ambassadors, he has done it with his allies, with his own Alianza Pa\u00eds, he has done it with whoever has said \u201cI don\u2019t agree with what you are saying, Economist Correa, because the road you are taking us on is towards greater poverty, greater crime, greater corruption which all of us Ecuadorians are experiencing.\u201d They are the ones who have voted No against Correa.\u00a0 It hasn\u2019t even been a response to the questions, it\u2019s been a reaction against him, against his arrogance, against this state and the wrong style of governing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>How do you come to the conclusion that half of Ecuador is not with the government of President Correa?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alvar\u00f3 Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Because you have to add nulls, blanks and the NOs.\u00a0 Then, when you add all those together you will get half of Ecuador, and in the end, if it is 5.1 persons against 4.9 persons, if so, then he\u2019s the President of the Ecuadorians, or the Chief of State, if not then he\u2019s the President of the Ecuadorians, or the Chief of State of the Ecuadorians or the King of the Ecuadorians, but it\u2019s not more than 5.1.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0Counselor, what fear do you hold for the moment in which they begin implementing the decisions of the Ecuadorian people from the questions that were asked?\u00a0 Are there issues, like that of unverified private enrichment, where there are risks, for example, of this being implemented as the will of the Ecuadorians.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Economist Rafael Correa himself said that if there\u2019s anyone for whom there is no doubt from where his wealth stems it is me, therefore, I\u2019m not the issue. The risk is that there are many people in the current government who live in the bigwig neighborhoods of Sambornd\u00f3n, and they were people who didn\u2019t have a cent.\u00a0 Therefore those people are the first who are going to be audited.\u00a0 In my case, well, everyone knows of the fortune that my father made, everyone knows my work, everyone knows what I have created during my life time, it\u2019s transparent.\u00a0 You, Andr\u00e9s, can send your auditors, given that the government does it on your behalf, let\u2019s see where the money comes from.\u00a0 As we all know it comes from wheat, from bananas, from coffee, and, well, from many automobile businesses that have been operating for many years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Counselor, there is another question that is probably the central issue of this referendum and it has to do with the possibility of restructuring the entire judicial system, not only the appointing of judges, but also of notaries, of registrars, in short, fiscal appointees, in short, all of the judicial structure, and in order to do so they are going to create an authority, or transitional entity that will have go ahead with the restructuring and the designating of all those new judges.\u00a0 What are the concerns, the risks regarding this issue, if you would be so kind?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Well, by coincidence, there we already have examples.\u00a0 Is it possible that, today, the court is not under the sway of the regime? The IRS sent one Economist Cordero to a tribunal attacking one of our businesses in order to turn over an earlier decision by one of the judges. \u00a0Who is this Economist, or perpetrator Cordero? The right hand man to the head of the IRS.\u00a0 That is already happening now.\u00a0 We have had the courage to denounce it and well, if only they don\u2019t do more damage than they\u2019ve done already, but tomorrow someone else will come in, a judge who you would like to have give his clear and transparent opinion and they will say that you have enriched yourself illegally, and they will say that you are a corrupt journalist and you will be put in prison by the judge nominated by this very government, by the same King, by Rafael I.<\/p>\n<p>That is the danger he runs. It\u2019s not just a danger for Ecuadorians, it is a danger to him.\u00a0 One day he should wake up in the morning, take a good shower, calm down and say, what mess have I got myself into?\u00a0 I am going to change and I am going to work for all Ecuadorians, not just for himself.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n: \u00a0<\/strong>Now, Counselor, with this the President will have absolute control of all the branches, of all the authorities under governmental power. Do you believe that the structure of the state now depends on one person?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>But definitely.\u00a0 He is in Congress, he is also in the Electoral Tribunal, he is also in the Constitutional Tribunal, he is also in the Executive.\u00a0 What he has been missing is a part of the Court, but I have already given you an example of one of the Courts.<br \/>\nSo from then on he will have, like Trujillo had, like Charles V had, the Sun King, sorry, the Sun King, the King of France,\u00a0 Rafael I will have all the powers.\u00a0 It is dangerous, from that stems the French Revolution, serious problems stem from there.\u00a0 That is also what happened with Garc\u00eda Moreno.\u00a0 It\u2019s a danger, Andr\u00e9s, it\u2019s dangerous for Ecuador.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Clearly in the case of Garc\u00eda Moreno there was also a Faustino Rayo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Yes, and I don\u2019t wish any of those things on Economist Correa, but rather that he takes a shower, he gets up in the morning and he says, \u201cWhat mess have I got myself into?\u201d And that he changes, via inspiration from God, to begin serving all of Ecuador.\u00a0 I don\u2019t wish anything bad on anybody, I want what\u2019s good for Ecuador.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Thank you very much, Counselor, greetings from afar.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Thank you, Andr\u00e9s. Greetings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Thank you.\u00a0 That was Counselor \u00c1lvaro Noboa, head leader of the PRIAN, this evening, here in this program,\u00a0<em>Popular Referendum 2011<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Andr\u00e9s Carri\u00f3n: Counselor, good evening, long time, no see.\u00a0 How would you read, how would you comment, or reflect upon the vote that was carried out today, Counselor? Good evening, we are listening. \u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0\u00a0Good evening, Andr\u00e9s, I voted in favor of the NO public. Just as I said in the media for days before the election. I believe it must be very uncomfortable for economist Rafael Correa to govern in a country where half of the people are in favor and half against.\u00a0 That brings, on other occasions in history, that has brought with it terrible social and political maladjustment.\u00a0 I think that is in no way a victory.\u00a0 Victory would be to have gained 90-100%.\u00a0 In that little exit poll that they have conducted, half are for the YES , and half against the YES, or, that is&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/news\/alvaro-noboa-interview-with-andres-carrion-canal-uno\/\" class=\"read-more\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[55],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1121"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/15"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1121"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1121\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1121"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1121"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1121"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}