{"id":2397,"date":"2012-09-06T13:29:29","date_gmt":"2012-09-06T18:29:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/?p=2397"},"modified":"2012-11-02T17:45:45","modified_gmt":"2012-11-02T22:45:45","slug":"video-alvaro-noboa-is-interviewed-live-at-ecuavisa-september-6-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/news\/video-alvaro-noboa-is-interviewed-live-at-ecuavisa-september-6-2012\/","title":{"rendered":"[VIDEO] Alvaro Noboa was interviewed live at Ecuavisa [SEPTEMBER-6-2012]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The PRIAN presidential candidate,<strong> \u00c1lvaro Noboa, gave a live interview through Contacto Directo<\/strong>, the morning news show that is brodcasted by the TV channel Ecuavisa.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c1lvaro Noboa mantained an extensive dialogue about the political party, his family relations, and the political persecution he is suffering. He also confirmed, according to the surveys, that\u00a0<strong>Rafael Correa and \u00c1lvaro Noboa<\/strong> are the main presidential candidates for the 2013 elections.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5K1HAt-OYHw\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>TEXTUAL TRANSCRIPTION<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:<\/strong>\u00a0 After Assembly Member Vicente Taiano\u2019s disaffiliation from the PRIAN, Assembly Member Tito Nilton Mendoza\u2019s has as well, and Fernando Flores has announced that, like Vicente Taiano, he will also join <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica<\/em>, because they believe that there should be only one candidate challenging President Correa. Furthermore, this Monday, <em>El Universo<\/em>, published a photo of Luis Noboa Icaza, also a PRIAN Assembly Member, together with Gilmar Guti\u00e9rrez, Luis Almeida and Vicente Taiano forming the three of the <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica <\/em>list.\u00a0 Our guest is Attorney \u00c1lvaro Noboa, PRIAN presidential candidate. Counselor, good day, welcome to <em>Contacto Directo<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you very much, Dr. Pinoargote.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>How would you define the attitudes of those people so close to you, who have been faithful and have been together with you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, first of all, it\u2019s necessary to clear up a series of points so that nothing remains in the air, like that there have been this number of disaffiliations. Before that, I want to say to the country that we are the only ones who invest a great deal of money in carrying out polls every 15 days, which responses from the most important points throughout the country. Those polls show that Correa is at 36%, Noboa 21%, Lasso 3%, Lucio 2%, Acosta 2% and then those who don\u2019t know and don\u2019t answer, and yes that\u2019s very typical.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Fine, but Correa\u2019s people say that he has 60% and you have 1% and Lasso\u2019s people say that Correa has 30% and you have 20% and meanwhile Lucio\u2019s people say that\u2026. or, that is to say, each one has their own crystal ball.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>And those who don\u2019t know and don\u2019t respond, the 36%, our crystal ball has been pretty accurate since \u201998. When Correa, in 2006, said that he was going to beat me in the first round, in only one round, I won the elections, and so, I\u2019ve got to believe in my crystal ball in this situation. There is no reason anywhere why a PRIAN representative should go over to <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica<\/em>, let\u2019s look at this case by case.\u00a0 Vicente Taiano was a Vice-Presidential candidate in the year 2006, when I beat Correa.\u00a0 Where in the history of Ecuador have you ever seen a Vice-Presidential candidate of one party move to another party?\u00a0 Vicente Taiano visited me a couple of months ago; he\u2019s a timid, cowardly man.\u00a0 Not like his son; his son is brave.\u00a0 And he tells me that Correa is going to imprison him and all those working for <em>Bananera Noboa. <\/em>He is the President of <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em>, and therefore he was in a panic, and the person giving him that information, according to him, was Gutemberg Vera. Gutemberg Vera, as we know, is a lawyer for the government. So he went into a panic. To me, they used him to weaken the PRIAN and to destroy <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica<\/em>, and that, effectively, has happened.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>He is a lawyer, and a good lawyer, and he\u2019ll know if they\u2019re real threats or not.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>He\u2019s a cowardly, timid man. He\u2019s been like that his entire life and I have said it to him to his face. So it\u2019s not, I tell you now, it\u2019s not an ideological problem. Because if there is someone who has been ideologically identified with me, it\u2019s him, who has even been a Vice-Presidential candidate, several times Assembly Member, etc.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Ah, the issue is that he\u2019s been threatened and for that reason has taken that attitude.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA: \u00a0<\/strong>It\u2019s that he told me so in my own living room and you can put it to a lie detector test. He said so in my very own living room and he carries it over to his son. His son, yes, is a brave man, but he has to follow his father. Luis Noboa Icaza:\u00a0 here I have a taped cell phone message that he left me yesterday, or the day before, where he states that he has never joined the <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica<\/em>, that that was all nonsense, a rumor, and if you look at Twitter, he also states it publicly there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Clearly. It seems to me that he appeared in a photo, together with Gilmar making a \u201c3\u201d together with Taiano.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>Look, the Noboa Icazas. I\u2019m a father figure to them, they are like my own sons.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Clearly. He is even a Noboa Corporation stockholder, as well. Executive Director of the corporation. He\u2019s your nephew. One could say, there is a relation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>Of course, I became so, because as well all know, Ecuador knows, that his father didn\u2019t play the role that he should have done. And so I became the paternal figure for them and therefore I don\u2019t believe in his entire life, Lucho would do something like that. It was a charade. He was invited that day to where Vicente Taiano was and they took a photo of him, and \u00a0he didn\u2019t send that photo, apparently Vicente Taiano did and it\u2019s just another charade.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But he stated later that since he\u2019s the president of <em>Barcelona<\/em>, he has decided not to participate in politics; he\u2019s not gone to <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, Lucho had a conversation with me. They talk things over with me just like when you want to talk to your children. When they want to be this thing or the other, they come and talk to me. He said to me, look, Uncle, I am a resident of the United States, and the United States residency, that residency is in conflict with my being a member of the Assembly, because the US authorities are asking how would I be a resident there if I am spending all my time in Ecuador, or in Quito. So we came to the agreement that what he could do, in accordance with the Constitution of the United States, and with the Constitution of Ecuador is to run as an Assembly Member for New York, as an immigrant. In other words, as an immigrant or Ecuadorian resident in the United States.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But has that been resolved already?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>I accepted it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, but to get to bottom of his position: someone published the photo. What Taiano says, and here on has to support one candidate, Mr. Lucio Guti\u00e9rrez says that he is ready to withdraw his candidacy \u2013 or that is to say, it\u2019s not convenient in the sense if you basically have the same proposals \u2013 that there should be only one candidate.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>But I just want to make one thing clear, that Lucho\u2019s intention, and he\u2019s like a son to me, hasn\u2019t at any moment been to join the <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica<\/em>, nor to leave the PRIAN.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now to his position. I believe that on August 20, he visited the Carondelet with <em>Barcelona<\/em>. They were there for the changing of the guard. They had lunch with the President and <em>Barcelona<\/em> are going to be champions two months before the elections and now he decides that because of his situation as president of <em>Barcelona<\/em> he is going to abstain from all political situations with <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica <\/em>and with the PRIAN.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s not what he said to me. I have to respond to what is told to me, just like you said, like you asked me about the polls, and that is what he said to me. Him and To\u00f1o, Antonio Noboa, his brother, didn\u2019t consult with me. I was out of the country. They didn\u2019t consult with me about the visit to Economist Correa, and my advice would have been not to go because Correa kicked To\u00f1o out of the Congress. He chased him out of office in the year 2006, so how could you possibly go and visit your own hangman and shake hands with him, go to lunch with him, etc? So To\u00f1o is forgiven because you always forgive your children and they are like my children. To\u00f1o did wrong in going to visit Correa and Lucho did wrong in going with him. That\u2019s something I let them know very clearly. I say it again. Look at those videos \u2013 you, here, have a splendid archive \u2013 they chase him out and chase out the Assembly Members.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>You had an Assembly Member, and Gloria Gallardo and all that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>But they can\u2019t go visiting their hangman. He can\u2019t go visiting his own hangman, that shouldn\u2019t happen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay, in regards to that your position is clear. In regards to the candidacies, apparently your candidacy is not at risk. That crystal ball even works on Saturdays and according to that crystal ball it even knows who the candidates are. Let\u2019s see what it said on one of those Saturdays with respect to the candidates.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SATURDAY CHAIN 25 August 2012 RAFAEL CORREA:\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, I am candidate, and will ratify my responsible decision before history to take maximum advantage of the immense mining potential of Ecuador. This is one of the fundamental issues because there has been a lot of hypocrisy:\u00a0 no to mining. Future candidates Guillermo Lasso, Lucio Guti\u00e9rrez, \u00c1lvaro Noboa should state clearly if they are going to say no to mining.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, how does this appear to you? He names the three right-wing candidates \u2013 \u00c1lvaro Noboa, Guillermo Lasso and Lucio Guti\u00e9rrez \u2013 but he puts infantile left-wing arguments in the mouths of those candidates.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>Of course. What is clear is that he admits who are the future candidates.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But he admits that what is most convenient to him is that there are three candidates instead of just one. Perhaps you see it from a different side?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019m going to talk about that in a moment. We had a conversation between us regarding to that issue. I did another poll regarding that issue in order to see how well I would do in an alliance with Lucio, and I got less votes with Lucio than without him. So, because Lucio has been the aspiration of the garbage of Ecuador, he has pulled in treacherous Assembly Members like Vicente Taiano \u2013 in the case of Tito Nilton, I will explain once more that he say day before yesterday that he is not going to join <em>Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica<\/em>, and not just that, at the moment his son directs the young people in Manab\u00ed for the PRIAN. I spoke to the son yesterday in order to be sure, and he said, I am not in agreement with all those rumors going around. I continue working so that, in Manab\u00ed, you will be our next President. Flores, they\u2019ve spent already four years saying to Flores and to poor Lenin Chica that they\u2019re going to sway them. They\u2019ve been the most solid members of the PRIAN and, regrettably, have had that rumor swirling round them for four years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>In any case, you are not prepared to review your candidacy, according to the polls that you have.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>According to the polls that I have, it doesn\u2019t make sense, it\u2019s not the right thing for me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But it<strong> <\/strong>appears to be the right thing for Correa to have three candidates.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s not the right thing for me because the same thing that happened to Cynthia Viteri is going to happen to Lasso. You are a brilliant journalist, you are my friend, and a brilliant political analyst. I ran in 2006, and Cynthia Viteri ran, and seeing that I led very strongly, the <em>Socialcritianos<\/em> dropped Cynthia Viteri and voted for me. The same thing is going to happen with Lasso\u2019s people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Or the reverse could happen, let\u2019s say. The issue is that, as the campaign advances, the one who is getting ahead is going to take the votes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right. Lasso, for his own reasons, has invested ten times more than what I have in promotion. Ten times more! Imagine that. You, who knows our economic capacity. I will make that investment in the months that really count, which is the last month, Alfredo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But, according to the law, there is a maximum limit. In those cases, in those months, it\u2019s that there\u2019s no restriction because all the politicians are campaigning.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s why Lasso is campaigning now and the President, too.\u00a0 Well, Economist Rafael Correa, with all the respect he deserves, what he\u2019s doing is against the law, against the law in everything, not just that. He is openly dedicated to persecuting me to see whether I will not become a candidate, and here in <em>Ecuador Inmediato<\/em>, there is a announcement and I would also like to demonstrate to Ecuador once more how they are trying to extract $49 million dollars from <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em>, while only $700,000 from <em>Dole<\/em>, $39,9500 from <em>Chiquita<\/em>, $14,000 from <em>Reybanpac<\/em>, and $11,000 from <em>Del Monte<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But that\u2019s what they want to collect. For the moment, let\u2019s say, you have successfully defended yourself, you can even earn protection, based on the law, in an counter suit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>That success I place squarely on Attorney Sylka S\u00e1nchez who has been the Director of our Legal Department for over 15 years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But this has already occurred in previous elections, because already in 2009, when there were elections in 2009, this demand already existed, and the IRS had wanted to collect.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>And he\u2019s not going to be able to collect. First, because there is no money in <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em> to pay that kind of amount. <em>Bananera Noboa <\/em>represents a capital of $5 million dollars, it\u2019s been inactive for more than three or four years, and in the moment where, breaking the law, they try to make good on that demand, they will take away <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em>\u2019s patrimony and it will end up owing $95 million.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>It projects an image that you are being persecuted. It\u2019s a form of legitimizing \u00c1lvaro Noboa\u2019s candidacy and they say, they\u2019re persecuting me and they say a government which is all-powerful is persecuting me, and yet, they can\u2019t collect the debt from you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s it. Fine, I have very good lawyers. Sylka is a spectacular lawyer. Dr. Fernando Alarc\u00f3n is a spectacular lawyer. And we use one of the best people in Ecuador to review our responses. But what happens is a campaign of terror very similar to that of <em>El Universo<\/em>, and I want you, who is a person with a perfect archive\u2014The judge who found for <em>El Universo<\/em>, the judge has been disrobed; the judge who found for Correa, is a judge who is rewarded. They\u2019ve taken it to where the judge who grants the right to support is suspended for 90 days. They take out a penal case against him, and they threaten him with being disrobed and imprisoned. That\u2019s what Correa calls justice in Ecuador. And not just that, but Economist Carlos Marx Carrasco, they almost call him Rafael Carlos Marx Carrasco, who is 4<sup>th<\/sup> rank: President, 1<sup>st<\/sup> line; Vicepresident, 2<sup>nd<\/sup> line;\u00a0 Ministers, Subsecretaries, 5<sup>th<\/sup> line, he\u2019s a 5<sup>th<\/sup> line little man.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>But he\u2019s an important functionary. He\u2019s the Czar of the Internal Revenue.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>The Czar is called Rafael Correa. He\u2019s the minor assistant to the Czar. He says, in his own words in <em>Ecuador Inmediato<\/em>, the Director of the Internal Revenue Service, Carlos Marx Carrasco, he states that he had solicited the suspension of Fourth Guayas Judge, Augusto Posligua from the Judicial Council, who accepted the petition of a cautionary measure for payment of the tax debt. The very next thing was that the magistrate was suspended for 90 days. They all control the Court.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>With all these antecedents, you\u2019re not going to withdraw your candidacy?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019m not going to withdraw my candidacy. I am going to easily beat Correa. I am in second place, why should I withdraw if according to my polls \u00c1lvaro Noboa is in second, Guillermo Lasso, 2 and Lucio 2. There are only two candidates: Correa and \u00c1lvaro Noboa, and the two of us are putting everything on the line.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 <\/strong>Counselor Noboa, thank you for your participation in <em>Contacto Directo<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1LVARO NOBOA:\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you very much.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The PRIAN presidential candidate, \u00c1lvaro Noboa, gave a live interview through Contacto Directo, the morning news show that is brodcasted by the TV channel Ecuavisa. \u00c1lvaro Noboa mantained an extensive dialogue about the political party, his family relations, and the political persecution he is suffering. He also confirmed, according to the surveys, that\u00a0Rafael Correa and \u00c1lvaro Noboa are the main presidential candidates for the 2013 elections. TEXTUAL TRANSCRIPTION ALFREDO PINOARGOTE:\u00a0 After Assembly Member Vicente Taiano\u2019s disaffiliation from the PRIAN, Assembly Member Tito Nilton Mendoza\u2019s has as well, and Fernando Flores has announced that, like Vicente Taiano, he will also join Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica, because they believe that there should be only one candidate challenging President Correa. Furthermore, this Monday, El Universo, published a photo of Luis Noboa Icaza, also a PRIAN Assembly Member, together with Gilmar Guti\u00e9rrez, Luis Almeida and Vicente&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/news\/video-alvaro-noboa-is-interviewed-live-at-ecuavisa-september-6-2012\/\" class=\"read-more\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15,"featured_media":2400,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[55,58],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2397"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/15"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2397"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2397\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2399,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2397\/revisions\/2399"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2400"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2397"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2397"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2397"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}