{"id":2484,"date":"2012-09-18T10:59:31","date_gmt":"2012-09-18T15:59:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/?p=2484"},"modified":"2012-11-19T09:11:14","modified_gmt":"2012-11-19T14:11:14","slug":"alvaro-noboa-is-interviewed-at-radio-sucre-september-18-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/news\/alvaro-noboa-is-interviewed-at-radio-sucre-september-18-2012\/","title":{"rendered":"Alvaro Noboa is interviewed at Radio Sucre [SEPTEMBER-18-2012]"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"On September 18th, the political leader \u00c1lvaro Noboa maintained an interview with Vicente Arroba Dito. <\/strong>His words were transmitted by Radio Sucre and he talked about his government and campaign plans, \u00a0proposals to attract foreign investment, the\u00a0renovation\u00a0he is implementing in the political party PRIAN, and the political persecution he receives from the State.<\/p>\n

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<\/strong>Journalist: <\/strong>Vicente Arroba Ditto<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:<\/strong> 7.30 on the dot. Now, if we have him on the telephone, as we have been announcing, and which will be repeated today at 5.30. With Counselor \u00c1lvaro Noboa and it will be repeated, as we said, via Sistema 2 1080, Cupido 95.3<\/em>, and Radio Sucre<\/em>, today at 5.30 pm.<\/p>\n

Counselor Noboa, good morning, via Cadenar<\/em> for Ecuador and the world.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Mr. Arroba, good day. This interview is an honor for me, and it gives me great pleasure to speak to you after all these years.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right, my dear Attorney, so many years and we haven\u2019t spoken. We\u2019ve got to speak a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, about the country, about your situation, of the companies that are having problems with the IRS. Let\u2019s begin. First the issue with the IRS. In what situation is said problem, Counselor Noboa?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Let\u2019s see, at the moment, I am the largest individual tax payer in the country. Grupo Noboa <\/em>is one of the <\/em>groups that pays the most consolidated taxes among all the companies in the entire country. Many of the roads, schools, hospitals in Ecuador are made with our taxes. I feel proud of that, I don\u2019t owe one cent to the Treasury and all of it has been nothing other than a dirty campaign on the part of the politicos, on the part, then, of Economist Carlos Marx, on the part of Economist Rafael Correa, who know that I am going to make it to the second electoral round, first or second, we\u2019ll see. That will make me the new President of Ecuador, because in Ecuador, today, there is more anti-Correa sentiment than pro-Correa sentiment.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>But they speak of $100 million dollars that Bananera Noboa <\/em>owes to the state, Counselor Noboa?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>They can talk about a lot of things, and prevaricate about many things. I don\u2019t owe a cent.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, speaking of the political situation in Ecuador. On this very day, what is yoru view of the political situation of the country?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>The country has various problems. I have carried out a survey, a survey which I asked two things:\u00a0 What is your voting preference, and what are the country\u2019s problems?<\/p>\n

In regards to the voting we have Rafael Correa at 36%, \u00c1lvaro Noboa at 21%, Guillermo Lasso at 3%, Lucio Guti\u00e9rrez at 2%, Alberto Acosta at 2%. In regards to the problems of the country, they speak of unemployment, economic situation, which is to say that although they are employed, they feel poorer, because even thought wages are better, they are facing a high cost of living, above all in food, in electricity, and the third problem that appears in the survey, is crime. When a poor man is robbed, everything is taken from him, they rape his wife, they commit a barbarity and then some against him. So they see this government like a government that hasn\u2019t protected them.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, the three problems that you have been able to detect via your surveys.\u00a0 It\u2019s 26 minutes to 8, 26.\u00a0 Being you, and\u00a0 becoming President of the Republic, how would you attack each of those problems?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Right, the economic problem. There are many countries that have had situations like Ecuador\u2019s and that have changed via the following means: first, I\u2019ll give you an example of the countries: Chile is one of them, South Korea, is another of them; Japan itself, after World War II, the United States, Brazil and now China. They focused on transforming the poor into a wealthy middle class. How is that done? And what do they consider a wealthy middle class? They consider that every man of a wealthy middle class should have a cement house, a car, they should have a high level of education, a specialized education, whether through a Technical College or University; they should have heath care, judicial security and neighborhood protection.<\/p>\n

In order to achieve those goals, one needs the following:\u00a0 that the level of knowledge of the worker\u00a0 and the poor Ecuadorian is raised. How is that achieved? Through the arrival of foreign and Ecuadorian investment with products like computers, with products like cellular phone production, with development in tourism, with a technologized agricultural development, with the first rate development of fish production, etc. etc. That worker should first receive, from those companies, a training program. That training program which is very common in developed countries. In that specific area, they will make him a specialized worker, and therefore more desirable, and therefore better paid. For that, national and foreign investment has to come in response to a friendly invitation, something which is not happening under this government. You have to give them a lower Income tax so that they don\u2019t choose other countries, but rather choose ours, but multiplied by a thousand investors, it makes the Treasure that much bigger, and so, since the Treasury Bank has become much bigger, a better social service can be provided.<\/p>\n

That investor, besides having a lower Income Tax rate that multiplied by a thousand, I repeat, will increase the Treasury, also needs to have judicial security and guarantees. He needs to know that his business is never going to be expropriated; he needs to know that he\u2019s not going to be encouraging a class war between his workers and owners and all of that is very important.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That is all true, my dear Attorney, it is a great truth, Counselor Noboa. But look, Counselor Noboa, there is a situation that is concerned as well with labor laws facing the foreign businessman and you, being an international businessman should know it as well. In this case, do you believe that the labor laws, on this very day, benefit or attract foreign investment, or do they need to be given some kind of change so that foreign investment would come more quickly under your government, if you were President?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I get along very well with the worker. We don\u2019t have unions or class struggles. There are small centers in 110 companies that for part of the Grupo Noboa<\/em>, for that reason I have to explain that as a Group, it\u2019s one of the biggest taxpayers, there are small centers which fix problems immediately. The problem is when the government sends people from Alianza Pa\u00eds<\/em>, lawyers from Alianza Pa\u00eds<\/em>, to throw gas on the fire, that\u2019s what bad. It\u2019s not the law. It\u2019s good that the workers have worker\u2019s defense, that social security is paid on their behalf, that their savings plans are paid, that they have IESS credits, that they have Social Security hospitals or private ones via Social Security. All that is good. What is not good is class conflict.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>You would eliminate class conflict, in what way, Mr. Attorney Noboa?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>By not encouraging it. Because the current government encourages it via the Alianza Pa\u00eds <\/em>lawyers, via the same labor authorities, they go around provoking the workers so that they attack the owners, that is bad.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>On the level of social security \u2013 it\u2019s 20 minutes to 8 in the morning, 20 minutes to 8 \u2013 on the level of social security, on this very day, what improvements would you make?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, social security is in a good moment. It\u2019s one of the countries that pays the most social security in the world and for that reason there is so much BIESS credit now for housing, in that sense I think that it\u2019s good. I wouldn\u2019t allow the Ecuadorian state to put a hand into the Social Security funds, which has become huge, because imagine if all your workers and ours, between what they contribute and what the owner contributes, it\u2019s 20% of income, that is a spectacular flow of funds, or that is to say, 20% of all Ecuadorian salary ends up in the Institute of Social Security, and what is important is that those funds serve for hospitals, serve to give housing loans, serve for all that and when the government has problems in its hospitality budget, that they don\u2019t touch, I repeat, the Social Security funds.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>In what form would your government \u2013 it\u2019s 18 minutes to 8, 18 minutes to 8 in the morning, here with Attorney \u00c1lvaro Noboa via Radio Sucre<\/em>, headquarters of CADENAR, this interview will be repeated at 5.30 via Sucre <\/em>itself, Sistema 2, 1080<\/em>, and Cupido 95.3. <\/em><\/p>\n

Counselor Noboa, being President how would you support the Municipalities and the Provincial Councils?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>In the same way that we are supporting them, but it would be 10 to 1, because my aim is that the State of Ecuador becomes a state that is 10 times richer than it is now. You must remember that we have natural resources similar to Norway, Sweden, Singapore, South Korea, they are 10 times richer. Taiwan, Chile itself is getting closer to the first world, and that is where we want to get. China has become the second richest country in the world. How? Via the same rules that I am suggesting, of business development. I consider myself to be a man of the right in what is business development.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Correct, Counselor\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa: <\/strong>\u00a0My Vice-President will be a man of the left, to watch over that money that I expect to generate mountains of as I have done in my private life. I expect to repeat that in my state life, that this money be used for social service.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Counselor Noboa, do you believe that the left and the right can go hand in hand in one State?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>In China, that\u2019s already happened. China is a communist country, but it uses the rules of the rightwing for business development.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>But it has a right wing Vice-President or President?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Effectively, they have, although they call it the Comiburo<\/em>\u2026 the Comitee<\/em>, it continues to be communist, they can even install a rightwing Chief of State. Or, that is to say, the right and the left can work hand in hand.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>I believe that yes, it\u2019s definitely like that, if it\u2019s not that they are completely and absolutely closed, because there are so many good things about the left, just as there are so many good things of the right, that is a great truth.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Clearly\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>It is 14 minutes or 15 minutes to 8. Yes, Counselor\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>That has been the problem of Ecuador in the last years. Economist Correa is very dogmatic. He is of the line of Fidel Castro and Fidel Castro has already racked up 50 years of poverty for being dogmatic. The Chinese got bored of being poor and took up the rules of the rightwing in regards to production.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, Counselor, the part that we are in is the economic part. Now regarding the student part, but before that, what support would you give to the Police and the Armed Forces?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Great support, a Police force which is constantly becoming more technological.\u00a0 We can bring people from abroad, who will help us apply technology, like, for example, the city of New York, which is very technified and has changed, therefore, in the last years with it last mayors. Giuliani was the first who applied technology and that changed everything\u00a0 and the crime rate fell extremely.\u00a0 When they say \u2013 remember the issue of the tablecloths in the Congress, the issue of the Constitutional Tribunal, who, breaking the law were removed and they told the Police to remain still and to do nothing? That shocks them completely. It\u2019s as if you were to tell a doctor that a patient is dying but that he shouldn\u2019t save them.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>And so, for that reason they need political support and technology to carry out their duties.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Counselor Noboa \u2013 13 minutes to 8, 13 to 8 \u2013 here with Counselor \u00c1lvaro Noboa, pre-candidate for President of the Republic via Radio Sucre<\/em>, Cupido<\/em>, and System 2<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Counselor Noboa, on the level of education, what would you do about education? Oh, no, sorry, before speaking about education, would you respect other powers of State, whether it were Judicial or Legislative?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>If they are not respected, investment will not come. It has to be respected because the investor has to feel that Congress does not exist in order to carry out expropriations; that there are no judges who will have them be extorted or expropriated by command of the Chief of State. I have to respect them so that investment will come here.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>You are totally inclined towards foreign investment. Is there another alternative?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>National, I would like to repeat. Not just foreign; national. Here are \u2013 except us, as a group, we continue to invest, despite all the brutal attacks we have had \u2013 but other people, who the minute they have a penny they take it abroad. So, therefore, that national investment also has to return, this money of investors has to return to Ecuador the moment that there is confidence again.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right, but you are totally in favor of foreign investment. Do you have any other, any other project that is not just foreign investment, that will really take the country out of the economic lull which we are experiencing?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, I am inclined towards money being made with money, so that between national investors and foreign investors, we will have the capital, always and only when investors are required to provide training for our workers whose salaries will double and triple once they are trained.<\/p>\n

Also to develop technical professions that need to go hand in hand with those companies. If they are petroleum engineering companies, we need to have the best petroleum engineering schools. If they are banana producing companies, we should have the best school for banana production. Just imagine it:\u00a0 Ecuador is the top banana producing country in the world, and yet Honduras, with much less production than Ecuador, is where the best university for banana production is. Here, if at the moment Ecuador\u00a0 develops first class technical schools for corn, for flowers, for vegetables, those farmers will produce double, and therefore will earn double or triple or quadruple what they earn\u2026.\u00a0 Just imagine that in the United States a corn producer is a rich, middle class gentleman, while an Ecuadorian corn producer is a poor man in the majority of cases.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s true\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>What\u2019s the corn producer got? Technique, that technique he learned at school\u2026.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>But, excuse me, Counselor Noboa. The North American corn producer, or the North American wheat producer, also receives a state subsidy that they don\u2019t get here.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s true, it\u2019s more than a subsidy. It\u2019s a good market system. Look, they, what they do is, when corn goes below a certain level, they buy it.\u00a0 At that time, when corn is sky-high, and when corn is sky-high, they sell it, and as it\u2019s the state, they have the capacity of saving it for years, and therefore they maintain a stable price for the corn-producer.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That is to say, there is no subsidy?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, it\u2019s not a subsidy. It\u2019s not, I say:\u00a0 they buy it when it\u2019s low\u2026 there, yes, they subsidize it. When it falls to a certain level. But when it goes up, and it\u2019s already at a high, like right now, they sell it, and selling it makes the price go down.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Logical.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>And the corn-producer ends up with a good average.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right. Not like here, when it\u2019s low, everybody dies of hunger, and when it\u2019s high, they also die of hunger because they are exploited.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right, that\u2019s right. Because when it goes up, they import\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>So, and when it\u2019s low, they buy low. So, they have liquidated it.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right, Counselor Noboa. Speaking about these things. You have said that money brings money, and that\u2019s a big truth. It\u2019s a kind of slogan. Just like, Ecuador, Forward, Ecuador. Do you have a slogan yet for your campaign?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I have various slogans. \u201cI know how it\u2019s done.\u201d\u00a0 I also use the word, \u201cAdelante\u201d\u00a0 and the main slogan will perhaps be: \u201cThe poor will become middle class.\u201d\u00a0 And from being poor, to rich middle class, they will have family cars, cement houses, healthcare, social protection, and good education and to bring it, as they say \u2013 just to give you an idea \u2013 this Saturday we are having a Popular National Assembly where not only the PRIAN is invited, but all those from the independent and opposition parties. We are going to raffle off, among the Ecuadorian people, a house, a car, a job and a scholarship to a university or technical school, which are the ingredients of my campaign. We are going to hold the raffle, saying, if we from the Grupo Noboa<\/em> can give this from the money that we have, then imagine the day in which I am the State, with the money of State, I\u2019ll be able to give it on a national level.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Nevertheless they say that your companies are responsible for the rise in the price of bread.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Look, I knew that they were going to touch on that issue one of these days\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s not been touched on yet?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>The one responsible for the rise of international wheat, and I have a study where bread, for flour, would rise 0.003 cents. So, in the case of Mi Comisariato<\/em>, for example, the price of bread is not going to go up. If the baker is putting it up, it\u2019s not because of me.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Right. Counselor, turning to politics \u2013 it\u2019s 6 minutes before 8 in the morning, until 8.10 we are going to be with you, because I have a number of questions to get through.\u00a0 It\u2019s 6 minutes to 8 in the morning. Counselor Noboa, speaking of politics. What is your idea regarding one sole candidate for President of the Republic from the left or the right? What we see is that you are not put off by a left or rightwing union. What do you have to say, your opinion, your idea about one sole candidate for President.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I am in favor of Guillermo Lasso, Lucio Guti\u00e9rrez, the PRE and the united left uniting behind my candidacy, but each one of them has 2% or 3% and I have 21%. They want to put up a President, but I believe it should be me, due to my 21%, whose turn it is to put up a President. So it\u2019s very simple, it\u2019s they\u2019re issue.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>According to which survey do you have 21%, Counselor Noboa. Because of the ones that have been published, you are around 2%, 4%, just like Lucio.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Mr. Arroba, you have known of me\u00a0 since \u201998.\u00a0 In the opposition surveys, where they put me at 7th<\/sup>, I ended up first in \u201998, and in the others , I ended up 2nd<\/sup>, and in 2006, they put me at 7th<\/sup>, and I beat Correa in the first round, when he said that he was going to win in only one round.\u00a0 So, therefore, I have to believe in mine.\u00a0 I have to believe in mine which are carried out, not just by international pollsters, but by Mercanoboa<\/em>, which does thousands of surveys on the business level, and that use the methods prescribed by the books on the political level for those same surveys. We, just like we do in house, we don\u2019t spare a cent. At times, the pollster, or the employees, they go, I believe to three or four neighborhoods and with that they have the survey. I survey, for it to be meaningful, has to have a fleet of pollsters which we don\u2019t save on.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>And, I\u2019ll say it again:\u00a0 I still remember with amusement how Santiago Nieto, who is my friend, put me at fifth, sixth, seventh in 2006, and in the 2006 motorcade\u00a0 for the first round, he calls me and says, \u201c\u00c1lvaro, how are you? I want to tell you that over the last 15 days you\u2019ve made a comeback and you\u2019re now in first place.\u201d<\/p>\n

I also want to show you another proof. We are in the counting of the affiliates, and from 180,000 affiliates, they\u2019ve been able to cut out 30,000 double signatures that they won\u2019t take into consideration and we are already at 150,000. But we\u2019ve submitted 200,000 more affiliate signatures from throughout the country, and that puts us, together with Alianza Pa\u00eds<\/em>, which isn\u2019t a party, but rather a movement, as one of the two political forces with the greatest number of affiliates. It\u2019s very easy to get people to join, because they have said to my face: \u201cI voted for you in \u201998, I voted for you\u00a0 in 2002, 2006, and I am going to keep on voting for you until this country becomes a rich country.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>But, Counselor Noboa, you say that you would call on all the possible pre-candidates for the Presidency to unite behind your candidacy.\u00a0 Two minutes to 8, 2 minutes to 8. But the other pre-candidates are saying the same thing;\u00a0 each one wants the others to unite behind them.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Sure, but they want to be President.\u00a0 Well, how are they going to be President with 2%?<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right, but in any case is that the only stumbling block that you\u2019ve not been able to remove to this day in order to achieve\u2026 do you believe that\u2026?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right. Perhaps you can help. I\u2019ll name you Ambassador right now, and you can go and tell them:\u00a0 Fine, carry out a survey together with \u00c1lvaro Noboa and let\u2019s see how the survey turns out.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Counselor Noboa\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Guillermo Lasso, who I believe is your friend, and my friend as well, they know him in Guayaquil as The Bank of Guayaquil , but the rest of the country also knows that he was part of the Mahuad government, and the biggest crisis that this country has ever had in the year 2000, that he\u2019s declared himself to be of the rightwing, when the left is what rules in this country. So, there\u2019s no chance for him and for that reason he\u2019s spent, the newspapers say, $5, 900,000 dollars, and he\u2019s got back 3%.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>While meanwhile I have a 14 year career. It took Mandela 40 years to reach power, nobody criticized him.\u00a0 They first thing they ask me is: again, Counselor Noboa\u2026? Nobody says that to Mandela.\u00a0 Fighting again, Mandela?\u00a0 So, well\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s one minute to 8.\u00a0 You have reminded me of several things, my dear Counselor Noboa. I thought the conversation was going to go a little more\u2026\u00a0 now we\u2019re going to be out of time, now it\u2019s going to be shorter.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I am open to it being longer, there\u2019s no problem on my part.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s 8 o\u2019clock on the dot, 8 on the dot. Okay, Counselor. But look, you have reminded me of several things, refreshing, refreshing, and refreshing all that we have done. Do you believe that unless there is one sole candidate, there will be no way to beat Correa?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, I believe that in 2006 I beat Correa against eight other candidates, and I have better news for you:\u00a0 all those who supported Correa in the second round in 2006, are now against Correa. SO for that reason, it\u2019s very likely that I will beat Correa in the first round like I did in 2006. But in the second round, surely, by my making it to the second round, Correa is going to lose, because he\u2019s not going to have Le\u00f3n R\u00f3ldos going in his favor; he\u2019s not going to have the MPD in his favor, which he had before; he\u2019s not going to have Pachakutik<\/em> in his favor, which he had; he\u2019s not going to have the PRE in his favor, which he had; he\u2019s not going to have any of the others, even Sociedad Patri\u00f3tica<\/em>, which granted the freedom to vote, which was a way of splitting the vote in favor of Correa. He\u2019s not going to have any of those votes in the second round.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>But at that time, Correa was not so strong as he is now.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Fine, but I also want to tell you that in politics \u2013 and you\u2019ve experienced politics \u2013 when the fall begins, it\u2019s very difficult to stop it\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>In Montecriti, he had 80%, now he\u2019s at 36%.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s also very true. Some say 40%, others say 36%, but all right.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>\u00a0Fine, give him 40% if you want.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>From 80 to 40, he\u2019s fallen by half. He can fall from 40 to 20.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s right, you are right. But beforehand\u2026 let\u2019s see, let\u2019s talk about the political panorama. What will happen if Abdal\u00e1 Bucaram also runs for President?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Nothing different will happen.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>With his candidacy?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>He\u2019ll have his niche of votes which will take away from Correa\u2019s because the PRE has got used to voting for Correa. When the PRE comes out to vote for their own candidate, it will take votes from Correa.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Counselor Noboa, something that you haven\u2019t mentioned. I believe it is important for your candidacy in the future. When you were President of the Federal Reserve, precisely in the Abdal\u00e1 government, what happened?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>What happened is that the interest rates went down and the monetary reserves went to their highest levels and what happened is that I didn\u2019t have one charge of corruption brought against me, so therefore, I think I did an excellent job.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Do you believe that current interest rates should come down as well, and how far do you think they should come down?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, the international level of interest rates has fallen 4% and here in Ecuador there is plenty of money, and that I believe is what they accuse Lasso of: how can the banks have the interest rates so high.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, What are you going to do with a country totally in debt and, what\u2019s more, with all of the petroleum mortgaged for several years more?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>At the moment that I bring a thousand multi-national companies here, petroleum will be nothing more than one more aspect of Ecuadorian production.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s also very true, my dear Attorney. Now, politically, what is your strategy for the future, when are you going to launch your candidacy? The National Electoral Council has accepted, you, it hasn\u2019t accepted you, if it has accepted you, when will you officially launch your campaign? When will you decide who will be your Vice-Presidential candidate? Where will it be and when will you begin to put together the lists, given that a number of legislators who you have had, or Assembly Members, have departed from your ranks, beginning with Vicente Taiano?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay, I\u2019ll answer both. I am going to launch my candidacy as soon as possible, and the law, I believe dictates that October 15 is the first day on which I can register.\u00a0 And with regard to the Assembly Members: except for the extraordinary figures with their own merit, like Annabella Az\u00edn de Noboa, who is going to be a candidate for Guayas, except Luis Morales who is going to be a candidate for Tungurahua, except Mar\u00eda Elena Pont\u00f3n, who is going to be a candidate for Guayas as well, for the rest we have put out a public convocation for people, 18 years and older, looking for young people so that they are at least 50% of our national level lists. Because half the population is young. If half the population is young, those young people have the right to have at least 50% of the Assembly Members and that is what\u2019s going to happen in our party.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Counselor Noboa \u2013 the attorney \u00c1lvaro Noboa via Radio Sucre<\/em>, Sistema 2<\/em>, and Cupid. <\/em>It\u2019s 8.05, 8.05.\u00a0 The Noboa Barcelona brothers, are you going to take account of them, or not?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, yes, I am going to take them into account.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Candidates for\u2026?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, I would love it if Lucho, who is an immigrant, since he\u2019s an American resident, represents the immigrants in the United States. In that way, it won\u2019t cause a conflict with his residency. And if To\u00f1o Noboa would be a Guayas candidate with Annabella.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Perfect. And how will you conduct your relationship with the communications media? Will it be strict? Would there be true freedom of expression?\u00a0 When they bring up any political issue with you, would you really take reprisals? would you be benevolent? what would happen?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Let\u2019s see in real life. Since \u201998, have you ever seen me take reprisals \u00a0against the communications media, which has ripped me to shreds? No\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, absolutely not.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, then, I wouldn\u2019t do it as a leader, either.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>As a leader you wouldn\u2019t either.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>With ECUAVISA, we have had our differences of opinion. We are now in a honeymoon period. With El Universo<\/em>, we are in a honeymoon period. With Radio Sucre<\/em>, and you yourself have let me have it hard several times, we are in a honeymoon period.\u00a0 So then\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, I\u2019ve never let you have it, because we share the same rights, definitively. We\u2019ve vacillated, yes, but we\u2019ve never let you have it.\u00a0 Irritated, yes, but we\u2019ve never let you have it\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>In that way, I, I respect the Press. In that, I\u2019m the same\u2026. in the United States, sometimes they let Clinton and Obama have it hard, and yet they keep respecting the freedom of expression. Each one has the right to say what they want to.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>And that marriage will last, or will there be a divorce?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, that marriage will last, just as it\u2019s lasted since \u201998 until now. It will last until death.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay, my dear attorney, we have 3 minutes left to say goodbye. One message from the heart, with feeling, with love and endearment to your country, to your country Ecuador.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>The most important message is that, although they vacillate, I will do like Mandela: if it takes me 40 years of fighting so that the poor of Ecuador become a wealthy middle class, with a cement house, with a car, with healthcare, with specialized education that allows them to earn better salaries and with neighborhood security, I will do those 40 years.\u00a0 It\u2019s that I believe that with this candidacy I am going to win, but if God doesn\u2019t want it that way, you will see me again in the next one and in the one after that and the one after that\u2026 so, you have to save that question:\u00a0 \u201cAgain, Counselor Noboa?\u201d Of course, if we continue to be poor. While we are still poor, I am going to continue seeing to it, fighting for my country.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Fine, off you go\u2026 Listen, one last question, one\u00a0 last. And your relations with Pachakutik<\/em>, MPD, the indigenous, the blacks\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I have gone to see all of them. I have called them, I\u2019ve spoken with Lucio, I have spoken with all of them. But I will tell you, they\u2019re at 2% and each one wants to be President!\u00a0 I no longer know what to suggest to them.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Listen, when are we going to do a survey? But let\u2019s do a survey\u2026.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Let\u2019s do it together and you can send radio observers.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Look, I\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I do them at least once a month and I\u2019ll authorize radio observers to be sent.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019ll tell you one thing, for us, we haven\u2019t done it with the best pollsters because the economic situation is more difficult every day. But we have done, as we call them, \u201cprimitive\u201d surveys and we do them in every capital of the province and really what that survey says is much more, because they are all samples. The ones here are of volume, so we can carry out 5000 samples in 24 provinces. What I want to say is that we are going to have 20,000 or 30,000 responses, and those are never mistaken. In that way we\u2019ll talk about surveys, my dear attorney.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Then do one about us and you can tell me how many are for Lasso\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, no, no\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019ll make you an even easier one:\u00a0 How many people in the radio are with Lasso and also how many are with Correa.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Listen, you want, you want to know that? Do you have a little time?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay, let\u2019s carry out a telephone survey, at this moment, let\u2019s see what they say.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Are you sure? You accept?<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, but wait\u2026 Unfortunately you already announced it, it\u2019s got to be spontaneous.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay\u2026.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Because, having heard the announcement, Lasso\u2019s people and Correa\u2019s people are going to call in droves.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, but now, now, now, now, it\u2019s spontaneous.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Fine, do it\u2026. but it doesn\u2019t have\u2026. what I am proposing, has to be\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Let\u2019s see. here is one, here is a call: 2292109.\u00a0 For whom would you vote? Good morning.<\/p>\n

Caller 1:<\/strong>\u00a0 Good morning, for Counselor \u00c1lvaro Noboa, until death!<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>All right, okay. You see, you made them call. Right now, you made them call. Hahahahahaha.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Hahahhahha<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Here we have another call. Let\u2019s see. Let\u2019s see.\u00a0 Another call. By cell phone. Good morning.<\/p>\n

Caller 2: <\/strong>Good morning.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Who would you vote for?<\/p>\n

Caller 2: <\/strong>\u00a0For Alvarito.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Alvarito, there it is. Ayayayyaya, we got it right on the mouth. Let\u2019s see. It would seem that via Radio Sucre,<\/em> you were convincing. In 109, good morning.<\/p>\n

Caller 3: <\/strong>\u00a0Always, \u00c1lvaro Noboa.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa, it can\u2019t be!\u00a0 Let\u2019s see, let\u2019s just see, look, I am amazed\u2026. for who, for who this time\u2026 In 119, good morning.<\/p>\n

Caller 4: <\/strong>I\u2019ve voted every time for him and I will keep on doing so.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Fine, thank you very much. No one has spoken of this, let\u2019s see, let\u2019s just see\u2026 from a cell phone. Good day.<\/p>\n

Caller 5: <\/strong>For Counselor \u00c1lvaro Noboa.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay, thank you very much, my dear friend.\u00a0 Why another number, why another number\u2026. in 109, good morning. For whom would you vote?<\/p>\n

Caller 6: <\/strong>\u00a0For whom would I vote? For Counselor \u00c1lvaro Noboa.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Ehehehheh. Okay, no more, Counselor! Hahahhahah. You gave it to us right in the smacker. I promise that this has been spontaneous. I promise on all that is sacred in the world\u2026. for my grandchildren, my children, and all the world.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>So stop be amazed, then!<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s true, I am amazed.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s that they go, wherever you\u2019d like, and they say, \u201cCorrea 80%\u201d and they leave them all scared, and they say, \u201cLasso is a monster, he\u2019s at 15,\u201d and they leave them all scared\u2026<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Well\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Because, I know that you are going to vote for me.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>It depends, it depends\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, so then I am going to work hard enough so that you\u2019ll vote for me.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>No, I\u2019ll tell you something, with all that we\u2019ve heard today, really we\u2019ve liked it very much, if it becomes a reality.\u00a0 There is a situation, of you in the Federal Reserve, it\u2019s a real truth what occurred in the Federal Reserve and the county had been pretty destroyed and you achieved lowering the interest rates and you were able to rebuild the monetary reserves, that\u2019s amazing, my dear Counselor Noboa.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you very much for those words.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>And it\u2019s true. Okay. Now, yes. Thank you, Counselor, and we\u2019ll leave you with some last words.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay, invite me again.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Surely\u2026. Listen, but you have to come here, you have to come here.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>With pleasure, with pleasure.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay, Counselor, you behave.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Hugs.<\/p>\n

Vicente Arroba Ditto:\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you.<\/p>\n

\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Hugs.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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