{"id":4474,"date":"2012-11-27T19:09:26","date_gmt":"2012-11-28T00:09:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/?p=4474"},"modified":"2012-11-27T19:41:12","modified_gmt":"2012-11-28T00:41:12","slug":"video-alvaro-noboas-interview-at-contacto-dicrecto-with-alfredo-pinoargote","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/news\/video-alvaro-noboas-interview-at-contacto-dicrecto-with-alfredo-pinoargote\/","title":{"rendered":"[VIDEO] Alvaro Noboa&#8217;s Interview at Contacto Dicrecto with Alfredo Pinoargote by Ecuavisa"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4433 alignleft\" style=\"line-height: 24px; text-align: center;\" title=\"Alvaro Noboa Entrevista en Contacto Directo con Alfredo Pinoargote\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Alvaro-Noboa-Entrevista-en-Contacto-Directo-con-Alfredo-Pinoargote-300x225.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Alvaro-Noboa-Entrevista-en-Contacto-Directo-con-Alfredo-Pinoargote-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Alvaro-Noboa-Entrevista-en-Contacto-Directo-con-Alfredo-Pinoargote-290x217.png 290w, https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Alvaro-Noboa-Entrevista-en-Contacto-Directo-con-Alfredo-Pinoargote.png 630w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>WHAT PREFERENCE DOES CORREA HAVE TOWARDS <em>DOLE<\/em>, AND WHAT PERSECUTION AGAINST ME<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>In an interview with Alfredo Pinoargote in <em>Contacto Directo<\/em>&#8211;<em>Ecuavisa<\/em>, \u00c1lvaro Noboa stated <\/strong>that <em>Dole<\/em>, which is a foreign company, is given protection while we, who are the national exporters, are persecuted.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cIn 2005, they charged <em>Dole<\/em> $780,000 dollars, while they charged <em>Exportadora Noboa<\/em> 150 times more:\u00a0 $99 million dollars.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Noboa<\/strong>, referred to the visit that Correa made to Murdock (a <em>Dole <\/em>owner) at the Kannapolis Research Center.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cBecause he\u2019s going to finance a project, Correa protects him like a king. It seems strange to me that he hasn\u2019t said to Murdock, \u201cListen, Mr. Dole, if we want to charge Noboa $99 million dollars, then you, who are bigger, are going to have to pay $120 million dollars.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa <\/strong>accused Correa of protecting the foreign companies and of attacking the banks and national companies, which he has besieged, he says. He stated that the persecution has reached such an extreme as to investigate in detail the surety that was presented by <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em> to the Court in order to defend itself.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cFour auditors from the Superintendents of Banks and three auditors from the IRS\u00a0 went to the insurance agency to verify the details of the surety. The State has wasted millions of dollars in publicity and in lawyers against me and has not spent even one penny investigating <em>Dole<\/em>, nor <em>Chiquita<\/em>, nor <em>Del Monte<\/em>.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/X9s_-iPJE-g\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>TEXTUAL TRANSCRIPTION<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote: <\/strong>With us we have Attorney Alvaro Noboa Pont\u00f3n, PRIAN presidential candidate.\u00a0 Good morning. Welcome to <em>Contacto Directo<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you very much. Good morning.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>Fine, as we are running a little bit late, we are not going to have the same amount of time we usually have, so let\u2019s get to the point. You allege that the IRS is persecuting you because, while it is demanding $49 million dollar in taxes from you for the year 2005, that is to say, not under the Correa government, they collected $600,000 for the same year from the multinational <em>Dole<\/em>, which exported more than <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em>. Now, it happens that Mr. David Murdock, a major <em>Dole <\/em>stock holder hosted President Correa on Wednesday gone by, October 30, a few days ago at the Kannapolis Biotechnology Research Center in North Carolina.\u00a0 What can you tell us in regards to this?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>That <em>Dole<\/em>\u2019s a foreign company,<em> <\/em>but nevertheless it\u2019s not persecuted. We, as national exporters, are persecuted. That from <em>Dole<\/em> they collected $780,000 in taxes for the year 2005; from us they did an audit resulting in a fine and interests of $99 million dollars, or they are demanding 150 times as much from us. Besides that, it seems strange to me that Economist Correa has not taken advantage of saying to <em>Dole<\/em>, \u201cMr. <em>Dole<\/em>, if we want to collect $99 million dollars from <em>Noboa<\/em>, then because you are bigger, then you should pay $120\u201d but that has not changed.\u00a0 In the years 2006, 2007, 2008, they keep lumbering us with amounts 10, 15, 20 times greater than <em>Dole<\/em>\u2019s, so the big question that I put to Economist Correa is:\u00a0 What kind of favoritism is there towards <em>Dole<\/em>, or what kind of persecution is there against me?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>What is <em>Dole <\/em>doing for the government?\u00a0 Here is something interesting. Mr. Murdock is a rich friend. He\u2019s a friend of Ivonne Baki. He came to the change of power of Jamil Mahuad; he came to Lucio Guti\u00e9rrez\u2019s handover of power; now, evidently, he\u2019s President Correa\u2019s friend, who has taken the trouble to go especially to the United States to visit him, and Mr. Murdock has offered to finance the \u201cYachay City of Knowledge,\u201d a spectacular project the President is initiating. But if you see this, about the relationships with businessmen, the majority of the big businessmen get along well with the President, and until a little while ago, even the bankers who had 10 discount points in income taxes. So, in that context, now, to what point does your candidacy favor or disfavor Correa?\u00a0 To what point are you obligated to throw yourself into this conflict in order to defend yourself?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>The most incredible thing of all is that I don\u2019t know Rafael Correa personally, but I have nothing against him personally either. We hold completely different ideologies, but in the area of persecution, I am going to tell you of a case: \u00a0we are right now defending the case of <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em>, and in the courts they are debating a surety that <em>Bananera Noboa<\/em> submitted in order to defend itself. Four auditors from the Superintendents of Banks and three auditors from the IRS\u00a0 went to the insurance agency to verify the details of the surety. The State has wasted millions of dollars in publicity against me. The State has wasted millions of dollars in lawyers against me and has not spent even one penny investigating <em>Dole<\/em>, nor <em>Chiquita<\/em>, nor <em>Del Monte<\/em>. I believe that Correa likes the foreigners and I believe that Correa attacks the nationals; he attacks the national bankers, he attacks the national exporters, and he embraces the foreigners.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>On three occasions you\u2019ve had the scent of victory in the second presidential election round. Now, after the low results of 2009, with new game rule \u2013 advertising \u00a0is prohibited \u2013 you are also launching yourself under the constraints of these cases. Is it proof that you don\u2019t now have the organization you had before, that you have to dedicate yourself to your businesses, that you\u2019ve had to dedicate yourself to your defense? You maintain that all the candidates will take votes away from Correa; it\u2019s my impression, and that of the people, that it\u2019s more likely that between them, they will take votes from each other. I remind you of the difference between you and the other candidates of a similar tendency like Guillermo Lasso, Lucio Guti\u00e9rrez, Mauricio Rodas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>At one moment, I wanted to unite all the candidate in only one front, to see if in that way we would have more strength. But the surveys revealed that, effectively, what you\u2019ve just said, that only one candidate would not improve the voting because the \u201cLucistas\u201d don\u2019t want to vote for the \u201cNoboistas\u201d; the \u201cNoboistas\u201d don\u2019t want to vote for those from Lasso. Look, in Quito there is graffiti stating that Lasso is a tuned up \u00c1lvaro Noboa, a term that the young people use to mean \u201crenovated\u201d, nevertheless I have to say to them that Guillermo Lasso brutal opponent of mine and has been all the time. He was with Mahuad, not just supporting him, but in Mahuad\u2019s government in \u201998; he was with Lucio Guti\u00e9rez in 2002; and in 2006, he financed Correa.\u00a0 Therefore, he always, Lasso is with the opposition, he is in the little gang, he is with the people like Mahuad and that is going to mean and will keep meaning that Lasso will keep going down, and I think that it\u2019s going to be similar to the situation with Rold\u00f3s in 2006, that he\u2019s going to be in fourth or fifth place.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>So you don\u2019t see Guillermo Lasso as a rival?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I see Correa as my rival, coincidentally, what I am trying to say, those other two strong candidates, Lucio and Lasso, are going to go out, like a candle that slowly goes out. Lucio stands at 7% declining to 6%, and then declining to 5%, and he\u2019s committed a series of political mistakes. He doesn\u2019t have Lasso\u2019s money which financed him before.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now we\u2019re talking about the problem. The problem, that is to say, is that there is a President who wants consecutive re-election for the second time, and then this panorama presents itself. So, \u00c1lvaro Noboa is obligated to enter the race, is contributing with what you mentioned. Nevertheless, there is something more, which is the difference with Correa. In 2006, precisely, with all the offers that \u00c1lvaro Noboa launched, with all the generous efforts Correa, who in the beginning spoke only of politics, of revolution, of political reform, ended up making offers, but in the name of the state, which is richer than \u00c1lvaro Noboa, and now the result is that the campaign is in that. So now, whoever offers the voucher and subsidies with the State\u2019s money bullies out the rest and distorts the campaign. How can the country change the situation? How does your proposal differ from that of Rafael Correa?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I am very similar to Rafael Correa in the social aspect, for that reason I am very distinct from Lasso.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>Or that is to say, everyone says the same thing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>You know that Lasso is not going to do the same things in the social area.\u00a0 What he says is one thing; what the people perceive is another.\u00a0 I am going to maintain the voucher that Economist Correa is maintaining, but that voucher is going to become insignificant once I achieve an economic reintegration and people are earning $1,000, $2,000 and $3,000 in order to buy themselves a cement house, to buy themselves a car like the middle classes in Europe do, like the middle classes in Chile, like the middle classes in South Korea.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>What is it that you are going to do so that the people will have jobs, work stability and can earn a lot more than they are earning now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>It can be achieved much faster than you think. Money moves quickly when there is opportunity. But in order for there to be that opportunity it\u2019s important \u2013 and that\u2019s where we are completely different \u2013 it\u2019s important to have good game rules for investors, that is to say, a court system in which Economist Correa, who always prefers the foreigners, the Chinese or Murdock, isn\u2019t pulling the strings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>That about not pulling the strings of the Courts, the problem is that there have been antecedents. There was \u201cPichicorte\u201d; that PRIAN was also in \u201cPichicorte.\u201d\u00a0 That is something like a structural weakness in the country, in which the same drama is always going to repeat itself.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>We have to stop one day. I want to break that pattern, and while that pattern continues, no investment is going to come to the country. We have to sign free trade agreements with the whole world. You are expert in that, you have been a diplomat and you know international business. We have to stop the owner-worker conflict. We have to have less taxes but more taxpayers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>Now in regards to the owner-worker conflict, for example, that is a singular bit of news. An accord has been reached regarding minimum salaries and that almost never happens. There\u2019s always disagreement.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, but we know that the State often uses its influence to create conflicts. We\u2019ve already seen that happen in TRAMAGO, another <em>Grupo Noboa <\/em>company. It continually uses the Business Superintendence to intervene in <em>Grupo Noboa <\/em>businesses. I\u2019ve already told you:\u00a0 Correa loves foreigners, hates national businessmen. How many big national companies are there? 20, 30, 40 and those 30 or 40 include banks, which he has besieged. While foreigners, like Mr. Murdock are welcomed. For that reason we are going to go to international courts to denounce the Murdock case. We are going to denounce Ivonne Baki, who was clearly heard in New York, in the American Consulate saying, \u201cThey have to fix my cell-phone, because here I have a call I am taking from Mr. Murdock and Mr. David de Lorenzo.\u201d\u00a0 That is to say, any foreigner, who more or less wants to help with two or three things becomes a king here in Ecuador, and any Ecuadorian who works like Noboa works becomes the focus of persecution, the center of attack. We are optimistic: the polls put us in second.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>That about the polls is also so relative. Each candidate has his own polls and finally, one day before the elections is when one knows which is the true poll.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>In this case, it\u2019s true, because the people also move a lot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>Unfortunately, our time is up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>I just want to add two important words before saying signing off from this very agreeable and intelligent interview. \u00c1lvaro Noboa and <em>Grupo Noboa<\/em> have resolved to support <em>Barcelona <\/em>financially in a moment of terrible crisis, because even though the team is in its highest moment in terms of soccer, it is in its worst moment economically, and it\u2019s a popular hope that the team survives, and for that reason it needs a financial injection and later on it will need to buy new players because many of the players who are playing are going to be sold, and so, like I am a patron of the arts, I want to be a benefactor for Barcelona; not me, but rather <em>Grupo Noboa.<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, the important thing is that Barcelona become champions, and that they build up for the <em>Copa Libertadores<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Exactly, that is where we come in.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alfredo Pinoargote:\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank<strong> <\/strong>you for your participation in <em>Contacto Directo<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c1lvaro Noboa:\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WHAT PREFERENCE DOES CORREA HAVE TOWARDS DOLE, AND WHAT PERSECUTION AGAINST ME In an interview with Alfredo Pinoargote in Contacto Directo&#8211;Ecuavisa, \u00c1lvaro Noboa stated that Dole, which is a foreign company, is given protection while we, who are the national exporters, are persecuted. \u201cIn 2005, they charged Dole $780,000 dollars, while they charged Exportadora Noboa 150 times more:\u00a0 $99 million dollars.\u201d Noboa, referred to the visit that Correa made to Murdock (a Dole owner) at the Kannapolis Research Center. \u201cBecause he\u2019s going to finance a project, Correa protects him like a king. It seems strange to me that he hasn\u2019t said to Murdock, \u201cListen, Mr. Dole, if we want to charge Noboa $99 million dollars, then you, who are bigger, are going to have to pay $120 million dollars.\u201d \u00c1lvaro Noboa accused Correa of protecting the foreign companies and of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/news\/video-alvaro-noboas-interview-at-contacto-dicrecto-with-alfredo-pinoargote\/\" class=\"read-more\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15,"featured_media":4433,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[55],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4474"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/15"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4474"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4474\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4477,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4474\/revisions\/4477"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4433"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4474"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4474"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alvaronoboa.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4474"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}